Freedom for Women Requires Abolition Feminism: Suzanne Pharr & Beth Richie
laura flanders show

In 2022, the U.S. Supreme Court could overturn Roe v Wade, imperiling all women's freedoms, and creating a new pipeline to prison for the vulnerable just as the world is learning how counterproductive most incarceration - solutions are. Today's guests argue that things could have been very different if the white dominated "choice" movement had paid closer attention to all women's choices, or lack thereof; if anti-violence advocates had rejected criminalization and incarceration as a solution to the violence in women's lives. Things could have been different, our guests argue, if a different part of the US women's movement had gained more attention - attention it is beginning to get now. There has always been such a movement, they know, because they were there. Today we talk to Black abolitionist feminist Beth Richie and Queer southern feminist Suzanne Pharr who have worked together, for abolition, feminism, and a systemic differently world for forty years. What have they learned? And what is their message for us now, when so much hangs in the balance? Guests: Suzanne Pharr, Co-founder, Southerners on New Ground. Author, Transformation: Toward a People's Democracy Beth Richie, Director, Institute for Research on Race & Public Policy, University of Illinois at Chicago. Author, Compelled to Crime: the Gender Entrapment of Black Battered Women & Co-Author with Angela Y.. Davis, Gina Dent and Erica R. Meiners of Abolition. Feminism. Now.

Duration: 26 minutes and 46 seconds

Episode Number: 243

About Laura Flanders Show:

THE LAURA FLANDERS SHOW is an award-winning public affairs series that reports on community-led initiatives across the U.S.

creating a more inclusive society.

Host Laura Flanders - a New York broadcast journalist, author and contributing writer to The Nation - talks with experts and people on the front lines of artistic, cultural, social and economic movements.

Each episode blends reporting with in-depth interviews of leaders in the arts and small business world, profiling individuals and organizations uplifting and revitalizing their communities.




NHPBS Over-the-Air Broadcast

WENH-TV Ch. 11 Durham

WLED-TV Ch. 48 Littleton

WEKW-TV Ch. 18 Keene

W50DP-D Ch. 50 Hanover

W34DQ-D Ch. 34 Pittsburg

Cable and Satellite Channels


NHPBS Five Channels

NHPBS - 11.1

Explore - 11.2

World - 11.3

Create - 11.4

Kids - 11.5

All of our channels and NHK World Japan are streaming LIVE ONLINE and on the PBS App, available on most devices.

Learn More


 

Community Impact

NHPBS NHPBS Passport Passport

This Old House | E5 | Carolina Comeback | Out of the Mountains
Ask This Old House | E5 | Planting Arborvitae, Storage Rack | Ask This Old House
Secrets of the Dead | The Rise & Fall of the Colosseum
Antiques Roadshow | Vintage Phoenix 2025, Hour 1
King of Them All: The Story of King Records | King of Them All
Austin City Limits | The Marías
Big Cats 24/7 | Succession
Maigret | Episode 1: The Lazy Burglar, Part 1
The Gold | Episode 1
Sacred Planet with Gulnaz Khan | Reclaiming Peru's Glaciers
The Caverns Sessions | The String Cheese Incident
Brian and Maggie | Episode 2
Great Performances | The Magic of Grace Bumbry
Hispanic Heritage Awards | 38th Hispanic Heritage Awards
Cook's Country | Italian-American Feast
America's Test Kitchen | Make-Ahead Masterclass
American Experience | The Presidents: FDR (Part 2)
Becoming Thurgood: America's Social Architect | Becoming Thurgood: America's Social Architect
Opportunity, Access & Uplift: The Evolving Legacy of HBCUs | Opportunity, Access & Uplift: The Evolving Legacy of HBCUs
POV | DRIVER
Unforgotten | Episode 2
The Marlow Murder Club | Episode 2
The Great American Recipe | The Grand Finale
Walking with Dinosaurs: A Viewer's Guide | Walking with Dinosaurs: A Viewer's Guide
Pompeii: The New Dig | House of Treasures
Professor T | Overboard
The Last Ecstatic Days | The Last Ecstatic Days
The Carnival of More Animals | The Carnival of More Animals
Atomic People | Atomic People
Cinema Nomad | Bosnia & Herzegovina
Wisdom Keepers: Healing a Divided People | John Vervaeke - Finding Meaning Through our Common Connections
The Future of Farming | The Future of Farming
Kerry: Tides of Time | Episode 1
Impossible Town | Impossible Town
American Masters | Marcella [Extended Audio Description]
Renaissance: The Blood and the Beauty | Rivalry
Doc World | Call Me Dancer